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bren.juachon
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:41 am    Post subject: Problem with agency in singapore Reply with quote

Hello, first time ko lang po magpost dito sa pinoysg. Pero may problema lang po kasi kami ng asawa ko tungkol sa isang agency sa singapore. Ganito po kasi yung buong storya, yung wife ko nag apply po sa agency. Sinabihan siya ng agency na magpa-medical na, at pwede na siya makaalis asap. Pero hindi na siya nakapagpa-medical kasi ayaw na niya ituloy ang application, pero sabi ng agency kelangan daw namin bayaran yung nagastos nila sa pag-process ng IPA and yung plane ticket kasi non-refundable daw yun. Kaso ang sinisingil 3k SGD, plus other fees pa daw. Ganun ba talga kamahal yung pag-process ng IPA? Wala naman siya pinirmahan na kahit na anong contract with the agency. Puro verbal lang.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nasaan kayong mag-asawa? nasa pinas? at paano nila sinabi sa inyo? via email?

may delete option ang email, put that on the trash! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: Problem with agency in singapore Reply with quote

bren.juachon wrote:
Hello, first time ko lang po magpost dito sa pinoysg. Pero may problema lang po kasi kami ng asawa ko tungkol sa isang agency sa singapore. Ganito po kasi yung buong storya, yung wife ko nag apply po sa agency. Sinabihan siya ng agency na magpa-medical na, at pwede na siya makaalis asap. Pero hindi na siya nakapagpa-medical kasi ayaw na niya ituloy ang application, pero sabi ng agency kelangan daw namin bayaran yung nagastos nila sa pag-process ng IPA and yung plane ticket kasi non-refundable daw yun. Kaso ang sinisingil 3k SGD, plus other fees pa daw. Ganun ba talga kamahal yung pag-process ng IPA? Wala naman siya pinirmahan na kahit na anong contract with the agency. Puro verbal lang.


no legal basis....wag mgpaluko ang ipa is 40sg lang and ang plane ticket d abutin ng 100sgd kng one way lang....grabi talaga ang mga tao sa atin haaisst...
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nandito pa po kami sa pinas. bale pinuntahan kami nung may ari ng agency sa bahay para iconvince na ituloy kasi mukhang lagot sila pag hindi tumuloy asawa ko. tapos ang natapos sa usapan eh may papapuntahin daw na tao sa amin para singilin yung mga fees na ginastos nila. mukhang idedemanda kami dahil lang sa pag back out ng asawa ko. wala pang s-pass, IPA pa lang meron siya, di pa niya nakakausap employer. may legal grounds po ba sila para idemanda kami kahit walang pinirmahan na kahit ano? verbal agreement lang ang nangyari? kasi pumayag naman asawa ko nung una na magpaemploy, thru phone.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bren.juachon wrote:
nandito pa po kami sa pinas. bale pinuntahan kami nung may ari ng agency sa bahay para iconvince na ituloy kasi mukhang lagot sila pag hindi tumuloy asawa ko. tapos ang natapos sa usapan eh may papapuntahin daw na tao sa amin para singilin yung mga fees na ginastos nila. mukhang idedemanda kami dahil lang sa pag back out ng asawa ko. wala pang s-pass, IPA pa lang meron siya, di pa niya nakakausap employer. may legal grounds po ba sila para idemanda kami kahit walang pinirmahan na kahit ano? verbal agreement lang ang nangyari? kasi pumayag naman asawa ko nung una na magpaemploy, thru phone.


kahit anong kasong isampa sa inyo, kung wala silang maipapakitang kasulatan na nagpapatunay na kayo ay pumirma ayon sa napagkasunduan, wala silang magagawa kung hindi manakot lamang. para lang silang naghahabol sa kawalan....

magbabayad ka ng over 100K pesos tapos hindi mo mababawi? ulul ba sila? paki check mo nga yang may ari na sinasabi nyo sa POEA. baka illegal recruiter yang mokong na yan!

sumbong natin kay Tulfo Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bren.juachon wrote:
nandito pa po kami sa pinas. bale pinuntahan kami nung may ari ng agency sa bahay para iconvince na ituloy kasi mukhang lagot sila pag hindi tumuloy asawa ko. tapos ang natapos sa usapan eh may papapuntahin daw na tao sa amin para singilin yung mga fees na ginastos nila. mukhang idedemanda kami dahil lang sa pag back out ng asawa ko. wala pang s-pass, IPA pa lang meron siya, di pa niya nakakausap employer. may legal grounds po ba sila para idemanda kami kahit walang pinirmahan na kahit ano? verbal agreement lang ang nangyari? kasi pumayag naman asawa ko nung una na magpaemploy, thru phone.


kalokohan yan.......kunin mo name ng agency pati may ari pati ung taong pumunta jan sa inyo tpos iverify nyo s poea, tpos pag d cla registered s poea, idemanda nyo ng harassment, if tinatakot kayo grave treat.......
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mukha ngang alanganin, chineck ko sa list of accredited agencies sa POEA, wala pangalan ng agency nila. Tsaka triny ko rin itawag sa POEA, walang lumalabas na pangalan ng agency. though according sa website nila, singapore licensed agency sila. di ko lang alam kung may partner sila dito sa pinas. puwede ko ba ipost dito yung pangalan ng agency or baka lumalala lang pag sinabi ko dito? baka mag file kami ng complain sa POEA tapos papablotter narin. nakuha ko rin plate number ng kotse na pumunta sa bahay. pag kinulit ulit kami, magsasampa talaga kami ng kaso.

a question though, effective ba ang IPA kahit walang pirma asawa ko dun? wala rin siyang medical exam. thank you!
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kalokohan!!

dumerecho ka na sa pulis i-report mo na yang harassment
para kung babalik yung agency jan sa inyo naka alarma na. wag matakot
dahil kalokohan yang agency na yan.

so ano pa hinihintay mo? gora na sa lispu. GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iniisip ko bago ako magpapulis, siguraduhin ko muna sa POEA na talaga illegal sila, kasi mahirap kung ibabase ko lang sa phone call at sa internet. alam niyo naman mga government agencies dito, minsan hindi reliable yung phone at lalo na sa internet kasi mabagal mag update ng website ibang government websites tulad na lang ng DepEd website. may nabasa kasi ako sa MOM website na may security bond ang mga agencies nila dun, di ko alam kung yun ang sinisingil nila samin, yung bond. yung IPA ba ay legal ground para magsampa samin? kahit singapore document yun? though walang kopya asawa ko ng IPA, pinakita lang. wala rin pinirmahan asawa ko dun. may pirmahan ba sa IPA?

nakita ko sa MOM yung agency nila, registered sila sa MOM.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bren.juachon wrote:
iniisip ko bago ako magpapulis, siguraduhin ko muna sa POEA na talaga illegal sila, kasi mahirap kung ibabase ko lang sa phone call at sa internet. alam niyo naman mga government agencies dito, minsan hindi reliable yung phone at lalo na sa internet kasi mabagal mag update ng website ibang government websites tulad na lang ng DepEd website. may nabasa kasi ako sa MOM website na may security bond ang mga agencies nila dun, di ko alam kung yun ang sinisingil nila samin, yung bond. yung IPA ba ay legal ground para magsampa samin? kahit singapore document yun? though walang kopya asawa ko ng IPA, pinakita lang. wala rin pinirmahan asawa ko dun. may pirmahan ba sa IPA?

nakita ko sa MOM yung agency nila, registered sila sa MOM.



Let me answer your question first:

di ko alam kung yun ang sinisingil nila samin, yung bond. yung IPA ba ay legal ground para magsampa samin? -nope

kahit singapore document yun? -yes, as long you didn't sign anything, they don't have proof you agreed to continue your application.

may pirmahan ba sa IPA? -no need any signature for pass application (IPA)

legally wala sila right na idemanda kayo...don't be alarm, parang credit card loan lang yan na wala pwedeng gawin kundi takutin kayo but in the end wala sila magagawa even accredited pa sila ng POEA.
Think of this, kung nagsubmit ko ng resume sa knila which mention my passport and other info then they apply me spass without notifying me and approved, do you think they have legal to sue in that case....of course not. the contract is the only way they can sue you since you haven't sign any agreement. your thinking too much, you even see the agency security bond...Smile The only mistake that agency did is, not letting you sign the contract first which is good for you. after certain period of time, i think 3month, your ipa will be cancel automatically. so don;t waste your time bothering too much. if they come back, threat them as well like nagsumbong na kayo sa police, pablotter na kyo, called POEA abt their doing...etc that way, they'll think twice to threat you again. Good luck and God bless!
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MERON PIPIRMAHAN SA PASS APPLICATION TO CERTIFY NA TRUE AND CORRECT LAHAT NG ISINASAAD SA APPLICATION NG PASS MO...
SINCE NDI PUMIRMA YUNG ASAWA MO PAANO NILA MAIAAPPLY NG PASS YUNG ASAWA MO.
NDI KA LANG PIPIRMA FOR PASS APPLICATION EH KUNG CHANGE EMPLOYER KA LANG WHICH MEANS MAY EXISTING PASS KA NA DITO WHICH I DOUBT NA MERON KAYO SINCE BASE SA KWENTO MO EH NASA PINAS KAYO.
ISA PA EH, NDI PEDENG MAGDIRECT HIRE YUNG SG AGENCY SA PINAS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH PARTNER AGENCY DYAN SA PINAS.
IPAPULIS MO YAN!!!
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lancelot16 wrote:
MERON PIPIRMAHAN SA PASS APPLICATION TO CERTIFY NA TRUE AND CORRECT LAHAT NG ISINASAAD SA APPLICATION NG PASS MO...
SINCE NDI PUMIRMA YUNG ASAWA MO PAANO NILA MAIAAPPLY NG PASS YUNG ASAWA MO.
NDI KA LANG PIPIRMA FOR PASS APPLICATION EH KUNG CHANGE EMPLOYER KA LANG WHICH MEANS MAY EXISTING PASS KA NA DITO WHICH I DOUBT NA MERON KAYO SINCE BASE SA KWENTO MO EH NASA PINAS KAYO.
ISA PA EH, NDI PEDENG MAGDIRECT HIRE YUNG SG AGENCY SA PINAS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH PARTNER AGENCY DYAN SA PINAS.
IPAPULIS MO YAN!!!


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